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Horsepucky. Complete horsepucky. That's like the person who says "You're not really saved because you don't read the King James translation of the bible!"

Whatever happened to there not being a difference between gentile and Jew? Whatever happened to not calling any person unclean or unholy?

Whoever that person is he is not a person of God. Anyone who divides the Christian church along denominational lines is not someone you should be listening to. You have NOT committed spiritual adultery. That person has committed a sin of hubris, to think that they have all the answers while everyone else is mistaken. That's the type of person Jesus would have sent away.

Look at the words and actions of Jesus. Do you really believe he would have turned one person away because they were Presbyterian (sp?) while embracing another because they were Baptist?

Sounds to me like someone needs to re-read Romans 14.

You're not committing spiritual adultery. Don't worry. Keep doing what you feel is right. Pray and fast if you need to. Take counsel with someone whom you trust and who has shown that they understand the word of God. And above all else trust your own instincts and judge your actions only against Christ himself. To look to another human as your beacon is to invite disillusionment and a separation from God.

Gnorb I love that term... never heard it before but lol horsepucky hehehe great term.

It is people like this who continue to turn me away from organized religion. People need to get over themselves and stop trying to make one flavor of religion better than the other. I mean, unless there was a major religious war in the past few years in this country... Baptists are still Christians.
By saying you're committing any sort of sin by singing to *gasp* other peple who are Christian... well, that's just unheard of! Give me a break. This man makes me want to break things. lol
Gnorb has put it very, very well. :) Read his words.

Just my two cents, but it was never WWPD (What would pastor do?). I agree with Gnorb.

What does this have to do with Apple?

Does your love for god make you feel good? Does singing with the other fella's make you feel good?

Then ask yourself in what religion would any god be disapproving of you doing anything that made you feel good? And do you really want to be a part of a religion that makes you feel bad, for doing something that makes you feel good?

i agree totally. and i thank you for your input. i believe that we all should forget about religion. i believe that some of our closed minded brothers and sisters have been caught up by religion. they focus on what rule that they can make next to further chastise the spirit. the whole time they are pushing themselves farther and farther from the truth of Gods word. i believe we need to embrace the bible and like romans says embrace your own calling and what God has willed for you. im not saying dont go to church. the bible says not forsake the assembly. i am saying that we as christians need to re focus on the truth of the bible. follow it and if God leads you to go to a methodist, or christian or baptist so be it, in the end we will all bow down before God and each held accountable to what God convticted us of and how we obeyed. i believe there are saved people in all christian faiths. it is dangerous to get like these pharasees and say my religion, my church is the only true one. i will continue to sing and rejoice in the lord. we must be doing something right. because the devil is trying somthing all the time to break us up.

I would like to know what this Pastor thinks of John the Baptist! If Baptists are not Christians (I was not brought up Baptist but have been going to a Baptist church at Uni where the teaching is more solid than any Anglican church I have been too!) then would Jesus have been baptised by one? Keep it Biblical is all I can say, take your cues from there and always return to it, it is perfect and contains everything we need to know about God.

Then ask yourself in what religion would any god be disapproving of you doing anything that made you feel good? And do you really want to be a part of a religion that makes you feel bad, for doing something that makes you feel good?

I hope you realize you just described the mantra of the Satanist church. Seriously.

Gnorb, I did not know that. But, I don't think that it's a bad ideal. Even if it's being used by a group I don't condone.

The swastika means 10,000 years or long life in ancient Chinese, Hitler misused this symbol and now it has a bad or evil connotation. Does that make the symbol itself bad?

To be clear I'm not a Satanist, but I stand by my previous comment, and feel it's a good ideal, whom else might find it useful.

It's amazing to thing what great Christian heroes would be excluded from this Pastor's church: Archbishop Oscar Romero, Mother Theresa, William Wilberforce, Martin Luther King (probably: he was a Baptist, but he was theologically liberal), Donaldena Cameron, Mr. Rodgers. I mean the list is endless.

I've never found a theological sin mentioned in the Bible that puts a person beyond the reach of God's grace or excludes them from the Body of Christ.

Ben