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Your Client Problems Solved: Answers (Part 1 of 3)

Posted by Andrew Faulkner on August 7th, 2007.

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Thanks to all who asked us a question on the subject of clients last week. Today, I’ve tried my best to provide a win-win situation for the most awkward of client circumstances. Feel free to chime in with your comments at the end or perhaps tell us how you’ve dealt with similar situations. The following may put clients in a negative light, but this is because we’ve particularly asked for those awkward issues and it’s best for both parties to be open.

Anyway, without further ado, here are the first batch:

What do you say to clients that have heard that PageRank is the be all and end all to internet marketing?

This is a matter of client education. Five minutes of speaking logically with the client can save many a phone call on the subject of PageRank later on.

But what to actually say? A good start is mentioning that PageRank is merely a by-product of your SEO/marketing efforts. The issue here is that the client correlates PageRank directly with positioning in Google. Show them that a site with a higher PageRank doesn’t necessarily mean a higher position for given keywords (perhaps with this query - no real pattern between PR and position.) I’m not saying PageRank doesn’t correlate at all with SERPs, it does. PageRank is a measure of incoming link-weight which does affect SERPs. So tell the client that the incoming link’s theme, anchor text and title text matter more . So going back to my original point - PageRank is a by-product and the client needs to concentrate efforts on sourcing links rather than checking their PageRank bar every day.

Still can’t convince them? Tell them to focus their efforts on a link campaign ignoring PageRank as even if they should be monitoring PR, it only has a visible change 3-4 times a year.

Win-Win? They learn about the PR myth and you can put your efforts where they count.

Why do clients think they know more than the designer sometimes?

Because the customer is always right…in their head. Why should you, a designer, who works creatively every day know more about web/graphic design than they? How dare you suggest that. ; )

Seriously though, the “I’m a designer so I know more” approach probably won’t convince them. Instead, try taking the approach of them offering the problems (as opposed to the solutions) and you, the designer, solve these issues in an elegant manner. As soon as the client starts offering solutions (which work because their friend told them it did) you’ll end up in a tangled web of solutions which may not work together, aren’t fit for the web or maybe just plain backwards.

Win-Win? All they have to do is identify issues and you don’t get the usual pile of rubbish to wade through. You get to use your brain and ultimately they benefit from a well thought through site.

Can you change the layout now that you’ve designed it and we’ve given you the content which doesn’t match the design?

Ouch. A tough one.

This one depends on your contract with the client. I’m assuming you’re billing them either hourly or that the design had been signed off and the contract is fixed fee. Either way, explain that (unless you’re financially suicidal) the extra work must be paid for. You’ve done what they asked for once and did it to spec. Changing it at this late stage isn’t fair.

Maybe put it in a real-world context and use a builder analogy. Getting a builder to build an extension exactly to your plans and then changing your mind and asking him/her to totally change it without paying them is unheard of. Maybe agree to charge them slightly less for the rework? It’ll show them that you understand their sudden desire to change and you’ll still get paid twice. You’re in a much stronger position if you have already asked for some money earlier on in the process - they won’t want to see it go to waste.

Win-Win? Hmmm…I guess if you do charge less for the rework then it shows you care for your clientèle. And as I said, more cash to you, even if it is at a lesser rate.

Your thoughts?

I’d love to hear whether you agree with me on these sensitive issues. Maybe suggest an idea or two?

More questions and answers soon.

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Funny how internet is world wide not just when talking about information, but about problems too. I am from Brazil and sometimes i have exactly the same problems you spoke of.

Rafael Dourado
August 7th, 2007
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Regarding your third problem, I have had success in suggesting to a client that I finish the current project as it was first specified. After that we will begin planning a second phase to incorporate their changes, which will of course incur a fee.

Steve Rose
August 7th, 2007
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In my contracts, I commonly stipulate that work will not begin on the design until all content is received. Design should incorporate the best way to display the given content. The contract also sets out the timeline for the project, ie. "You have n weeks to collate all content and present to me by X-date. Each day past this date could delay the project by 2-3 days.  I will then have the first draft completed and ready to present by Y-date. Allow n weeks for the allowed two revisions, giving an estimated launch date of Z-date."This method allows me to more effectively schedule my workload, plus it manages both the expectations of myself and the client. Most clients agree and are happy to abide by it, althought it may not suit everyone. I also agree with Steve Rose. I’ve recently had to draw the line with a client (it was a committee-as-a-client project who couldn’t seem to make up their mind to what they wanted, 1 week away from the scheduled completion date). I insisted we finish the job as first planned, invoice, then organise a second maintenance project after the client has had time to collect their thoughts and decide what they really want to change.

Michael McCorry
August 8th, 2007
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Steve/Michael,

Thanks for the suggestions. It’s interesting to see how different designers/companies handle these potentially awkward situations. There is certainly a theme of client education and the need for contracts in the answers above.

Anybody had bad experiences in the above situations? How did it turn out?

Andrew Faulkner
August 8th, 2007
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With regards to the final question, as a recent ALA article points out, contrary to what (as designers) our egos sometimes tell us, the content is by far the most important part of a website, and the design should really be built around it. Ideally that problem shouldn’t pop up at all because the content should be written first.

jono1
August 9th, 2007
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jono1,

I also believe that this is the ideal way to design, but it’s not always done. I find that with some clients, getting all the content is like getting blood out of a stone so this approach doesn’t always work. It’s a great process if it does though.

Andrew Faulkner
August 9th, 2007
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Re: Problem #3. In these circumstances I certainly always charge for any major revisions that fall outside the initial spec, and not at a reduced rate. As often as not, when faced with the prospect of paying for their website twice the client’s urgent (and often ill conceived) revisions will suddenly be forgotten.  That may not be a win-win, but it’s a win for the web designer!BTW, I love the builder analogy! Has anyone else notied that either an architect or builder analogy can be used to describe just about any aspect of web design/development?

Jonathan Nicol
August 13th, 2007
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Jonathan: The builder analogy is a good one. It’s useful to think about these kind of issues in real world situations to fathom out a potential solution. The problems with working with people in the online world are that ‘websites are cheap’ and ‘it only takes a few seconds to build all the pages.’ People need to see it as a valuable service.

Andrew Faulkner
August 13th, 2007
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great article! ;)Clients are a pain. A bill is 10% for teh creativity, 10% for the work, 80% for DEALING with the client. That´s why web designers (and ALL designers) should charge largebills! ^_^Cheers form Buenos Aires, Argentina 

2Clicks
August 16th, 2007
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I completely agree, our company, netage, always has problems with clients such as those your readers have asked questions about, the way we;ve chosen to solve it is basically by tackling the questions before they arise. We send a small document out to our clients containing the questions we’ve had to deal with in the past along with the answers… That way the clients know how the land lies from the beginning 

Shane: content writer
March 3rd, 2008
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