Chawlk

1. Drawar
2. Fenxy
3. Decaflon
4. Two Credits
5. Wriging
6. Loose Suits
7. Chixe
8. Dud3s
9. Wing Colors

 

I would first just like to say that I've thought long and hard about the following email. It's not my intention to judge anyone, simply state the facts as they seem apparent to me:

In my mind, deleting the entire note and all of its replies is spitting in the face of everyone who took time to respond to the note itself and everyone else within it. There was nothing outrageous about the note itself. It sounds more like you, Tyme, were simply offended.

The way that you responded to Oli above indicates that you're speaking through emotions rather than the rational, non-biased and collected leader of a popular online forum.

This is blatant censorship and it saddens me. When I first began participating in notes this seemed like a wonderful place to discuss all types of issues, where people of varying backgrounds could give their opinions and we were all free to take them or leave them.

Recently you've mention that you've deleted many posts because there were "too many about the iPod", so a guy like Dale comes along with a little humor to inject into the conversations and he's shut down, then you delete a member for posting a video. So this is not just based on one decision, but many recent decisions.

This is the last note I'll ever post to on 9Rules, please feel free to ban or delete me or whatever decision befits a Ruler.

You've got a very affordable price, so you can probably suck in quite a bit of work. I wouldn't be able to make a living if every site I built was for $500, personally. For the prices I charge, your average blogger isn't looking to pay that much, unless they're big time and looking to make a living off of their blog themselves, or it's a corporate blog of some type.

Another thing I contemplate is how long this blogging bubble will last? Already from two years ago I've noticed a lot less people in my "real life" who blog or talk about it, whereas 24 months ago every one had a blog or three.

But if you know how to build a blog, you can probably build a website, and I don't see web design going away any time soon. (At least until Walmart figures out a way to sell it.)

No use of AJAX

I'm not sure this is true. I thought Gmail was built on AJAX and it works for me (though not particularly exceptionally) and if I go into my WordPress admin system, the AJAXy menus to the side of the Write/Edit post area work (though you can't drag them around, they still expand, contract, work.)

Doesn't stress shorter input types (zip code vs city)

Wouldn't this be more on the site's designer's end?

Not using hi-res images scaled down. (see pocketweet sideways)

With the Zooming in capabilities, isn't it nice to have the full sizers? Though having the option to set this would be nice. Options in general would be nice. :)

Lots of upgrades could happen, a couple I can think of:

• It'd be nice if multiple pages could load at one time, or if I could begin to load up a page, drop back out and play around in Notes or Calendar or whatever, and then come back to fully loaded pages.
• Some way to "open in new tab" - this has become such a necessary feature in normal life that it gets frustrating on the phone.

What ever happened to Lindows? That sounded like the most viable option for Linux to ever take off, because it actually provided a completed package "right out of the box."

I learned Basic on my own in high school, CSS and XHTML later in life, and now am making my way through PHP, all which can be a bit daunting, but doable.

Sitting down and trying to figure out Linux, installing kernels, patches, boxing my root... it's all just so overwhelming, anyone who doesn't replace all of his E's with 3's is going to have such a hard time.

Sometimes, when there are like 46,789.456 replies already it can be a bit daunting to read them all.

Sometimes it feels compelling to post a reply, even if it's very similar to what someone else has written.

I think that changing the subject is a-okay, but it might be nice if we had the ability to reply to a certain note. So if estaria and mwilsonemt here wanted to go off on a tangent, they could, and it would be apparent that they were replying directly to each other.

I think most forums systems give you that ability. I guess Notes is really only a forum in the sense that it was based off of forum software, but in the end seems to be much more of a mass blog with comments rather than forum replies.

I really liked Dale, more than I've liked anyone on this site thus far.

I assumed he was legit. I know plenty of people like him in the little hick town I grew up in. People who say/write what they want to and don't care about sounding stupid, and while I agree that they do sound stupid as far as language and grammar are concerned, at least they get into what they want to get into.

Good job Dale, boo for the murder of his online persona.

I agree with the sans for anything and serif only for large text like headlines. Wired.com is a great example of a site that uses serif for the body font, makes it too small, and it gets difficult to read.

In general, I think fonts on the Web are too small. Anything smaller than the text here on 9Rules is really difficult for a lot of people to read, and not just the old and blind. I wear contacts sometimes and, as a lot of people do I'm sure, sometimes I leave them in too long or am sitting in a smoky / overly air conditioned room. At that point really small text or text without sufficient contrast can get difficult to read.

That's what I think the Web 2.0 thing is really all about, taking design and functionality and making them all they can be on the web. Hence the large amounts of whitespace and giant font sizes.

I was a huge fan of music piracy when I had no money and liked music anyway. Plus, in the beginning it was just too tempting, so easy, and when Napster first broke onto the scene we really only had mainstream music as an outlet for experiencing new music on a large scale level (to find indie bands back then, you had to actually live near a local record store or know someone cool).

But now that we can buy single tracks from iTunes, with subscription services and places like eMusic, plus the fact that I have some money to spare these days, I feel like $1 is pretty damned cheap for something I may listen to 1000s of times for the rest of my life.

When it comes to stealing music, what do you think about situations like The Beatles? It's my understanding that none of the surviving Beatles own their songs, which I might almost assume means they're not making royalties on them (I could be wrong about that, easily.) But if a musician isn't actually getting any $$ from the sale of a song, or maybe the entire band is dead or something, would you feel less bad about stealing the song?

Thanks everyone, much appreciated!

@Tyme & Scrivs: I'm assuming you guys work in the same office. Maybe that's an incorrect assumption, but if you do, is there some sort of inter-office rule:

"No discussing notes outside of the notespace."

Certainly not that I'm saying you shouldn't be doing it here, I just think it'd be hilarious if you're both peaking over the other's shoulders "Did he reply yet?" "She'll never suspect this one!" "Ooh, that's it, he's getting artificial creamer in his soy latte!"

While many of us may find the topic chainsaws funny, and surely all of us find it fun, there is a very real likelihood that Dale is building this even as we speak.

The first big concert I ever attended was Roger Waters. It was pretty much the most amazing display of music, visuals and free drugs I'd ever experienced, on such a ginormous scale

Who doesn't like old saws, ThanksDale?

I prefer a good old fashioned pull start two-stroke over these new electric chainsaws. If you can't cut the cord don't kill the woo(r)d I say!

The other day I cut down a dead limb from a tree that was still alive using my neighbors Wallretreat, which I'd never heard of but boy of boy was that a doozy!

I'm fairly certain I mixed the oil a little heavy and wow was it smoking.

Agreed and touche.

Okay, I guess you're right, Tyme. I was questioning Apple's business practices, albeit specifically towards one feature. I'm completely cool with the fact that things get off topic, that's how most real world conversations go, and I in fact relish that.

Sorry if my response to how things seem, from my perspective, to be going around here upset you in some personal way and good job deleting all of those notes. I'm sure the people who posted them are all McDonald's slogans over that.

Oh man, I love Dale.

So is the current submission process not to submit yourself at all and eventually you may or may not become the Chosen One-of-'em?

Or is it that you can submit but only if you're participating?

Apple has to pay the labels and artists even for ringtone sells so there really isn't an option to give them away for free or else every song in the iTunes store would have that capability.

I can't be sure on whether Apple would need to pay royalties to labels and artists for ringtones, but you can't buy a ringtone for $.99 - you first have to buy the song or use one you already own (can you even use a song that you got from outside of the Apple store?)

So you're paying for the royalties of a song twice.

As for being an early adopter and the price drop, well that's not really the issue at hand. I assume that's the reason for multiple iPhone/iPod posts on this site: different topics for each. What is the point of allowing multiple notes if people aren't allowed to bring up different points about the same subject?

For example, this note is about Ringtones. It's not about whether or not you want an iPod Touch or an Nano. It's not about organizational features of the iPhone or even that the iPhone has dropped in price. If there should only be one thread about iPods/iPhones where every single aspect of those subjects must be discussed, then perhaps that should be made clear. I realize that this post in itself gets off subject, but I'm slightly weirded out about making it into its own note for what the comment repercussion might spawn.

I don't really see the issue with having lots of notes about the same subject, anyway. A lot of people on this site like Apple products. Apparently a lot of people like to talk about movies and photography and dead fat singers and WordPress, many of which are topics I don't care about, but having a plethora of things to discuss has always been a primary reason for visiting this site.

Sorry if that's all a bit forward, it just seems that there are a lot of pseudo-restrictions popping up here, unwritten rules type stuff that either needs to be made clear or else should be let slide.

Oooh, I didn't realize Camino was made by Mozilla. In.terest.in/g

Is it as customizable as Firefox?

That is, does it have plugins? Can you at least move around where you want the bookmarks bar?

I've tried switching over to Safari, but it's lacking in that:

• No Google Toolbar and I often use image search and the custom searches that provides.
• You can't customize the toolbars
• All of my usernames/passwords are stored in Firefox and I hate the idea of repopulating Safari with these. Shouldn't keychain be able to handle this for me?

Sorry, I've been working out. All fixed.

hahahahahh oh my god, I just saw Dale's actual bumper stickers that he likes. What a chain wallet.

I once saw a bumper sticker that just read:

"Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, b, a, b, a, start"

Ethics, flaming, and RightOn's political status aside...

What's your beef? I've been a Cingular customer for years and I can tell you, $0.99 for a ringtone is WELCOME... I recall paying $1.99 for a ringtone from Cingular.

No offense, seriously RightOn, but I can't see how paying $1.99 for a ringtone is anywhere reasonable when an entire song is $.99. Not to mention that you're not paying $.99 for the ringtone, you're paying $1.98 because you have to first buy the song, then pay to have it turned into a ringtone. Ask yourself this:

• Is a ringtone worth more than an entire song? Is it worth as much? It is definitely less of a product.
• When a device can already play music, why is that device purposely made to not allow that music to be played in different ways?
• Why would a device be restricted from purchasing downloads through AT&T's other ringtone outlets, there are many of them, some are free, others are through AT&T themselves and cost $$. None are available to iPhone users.

It is a proven fact that you CAN take music you already own and make it into a ringtone FREE OF CHARGE and install it on your iPhone.

But this also likely violates your terms of service, eh? And while it may be possible, I'm a little wary of hacking a $600 just so I can hear Snoop Dogg playing while my mom calls to check if I've been getting enough protein.

When it does come to ethics, I think that corporations are free to pick and choose what "Beliefs" they have or not. And lets face it, any corporation that is making big cash and has investors probably has a primary belief, which is to make money, and that's an ethical responsibility to the investor. Ethics, however, has nothing to do with this conversation, in my opinion, but simply that it just doesn't make sense to limit this device in so many ways.

It's billed as a small computer, they're saying it's running OS X, but show me a computer that you can't install software on, show me an OS at all that doesn't allow you to manage your own files and manipulate as you'd like.

Hell yes, Dale! Again, my favorite person on this site...

I'm running 2.0.0.6, about 6 plugins, nothing too heavy (other than the Web Developer toolbar, I suppose).

Anything over 10 tabs just dies. I have a pretty brand new Mac that's high end enough that it should be able to handle 10 tabs. My old Windows machine + FF 1.5 could easily run 20 tabs...

I agree with everyone who thinks that raising your child is an effort in communication, trust and a little risk, not becoming a slave driving dictator who mandates every move they make and doesn't give them the freedom to figure out the difference between right and wrong.

If we are always watching our children, always making sure they're not getting into trouble, then they will never have the experience of determining right and wrong for themselves, and we'll have more Hitlers, W. Bushs, etc.

Everyone deserves some sort of privacy, even children, and everyone should be treated with the respect and trust that we want them to treat us with.

It amazes me how horrible so many parents are - I mean, you've got 18 or so years of experience being a child, being the child of a parent, and somehow when you grow up you completely forget the whole thing. Because it's easier to say "because I said so" than it is to say "this is why you don't do that".

Oh man, Dale is sooooo my newest top friend. Even though I'm relatively sure he's some type of SPAMmer, he's a damn funny one so I say we all chip in and buy him a trip to the STIHL All in One Axe and Chainsaw Convention 2010 (dates still pending.)

No one can answer this question, because no one has lived in every area of the US and tried every cell phone carrier.

When I had Sprint, I hated them, then I loved them. My sister has had AT&T for the past few years and never seems to have a problem. My mom has Verizon and she's always cutting out for me, but not for my sister. That problem occurred when I had Sprint and now that I have AT&T.

T-Mobile has a hot spokeswoman, so I'd go with them if I were you.

I don't get it...

an 8GB Nano for $200 (that looks like someone literally ate a regular nano and then really had to squeeze for it to come out the other end.)

or

an 8GB Touch for $300. For an extra $100 you get bigger video, better design, the Internet, and you can pretend like you have an iPhone so the ladies will do the loving to you.

Every day my iPhone updates the little icon for Calendar.

I thought that was pretty neat.

I'd've liked to have saved $200 on the 8GB.

I'd like it if I was pissed on by Apple, too, why can the iPod buy music from iTunes but the phone can't? Not that I would, but extra features...ugh.

Also, what's up with that Nano? Pre.ty.ugly.

And what happened to all of these updates we were supposed to see?