Let's say you have a teenage child. Your child has an interest in dancing. As a parent you think it's a great idea to have a hobby and it's a way for your son or daughter to have fun with his/her friends (like playing in a band, it encourages creativity). Your teenage child occasionally talks with enthusiasm about their progress, saying they are practicing flips and choreography.
One day, you find out that the dancing your child is doing with his/her friends is this and this.
How would you feel? What would you do? Do you think they are just dancing?

15 Comments
Ozone42
Written Feb. 15, 2008 / Report /
You can take out the humping and it could be an impressive dance... unfortunately the humping is like 90% of the time in that clip.
There's a lot of cool acrobatics going on in that, things that genuinely take skill, the humping doesn't. It makes for a really boring dance.
I don't mind dances being sexually suggestive; I think that's one of the natural forms of dance and part of why it's relevant in culture. This one is just kind of ridiculous.
RightOn
Written Feb. 15, 2008 / Report /
First, I'd ask for ALL of my money back, then I would beat that guy to a bloody pulp.
But that's just me.
Justin
Written Feb. 15, 2008 / Report /
I saw another video like this just the other day, and it's funny, the first thing I thought about was how I'd feel if I were a parent and I was seeing my child. I'd like to think I'll be enough of an open-minded father not to freak out, but I dunno.
Tyme
Written Feb. 15, 2008 / Report /
@Ozone: I don't mind sexually themed dances either - with adults. These are kids who are way too familiar with each others bodies. They were literally putting their faces in the girls southern regions like it belonged there. In the second one the flips were well done, then they had to simulate sex at the end the guy started to pull his pants down. :(
@RightOn: I read the comments and I wondered if I became the parent I never wanted to be: a prude. To me that's not just dancing. Sex was the theme, not choreography. Last I checked a bed/counter wasn't a part of a dance routine. o_O
Tyme
Written Feb. 15, 2008 / Report /
@Justin - I thought I was open-minded but not that much. The flips I could take. The boy putting his head between her legs and the girl pushing it further down? Naw...
If they were over 18 I wouldn't like it (the focus on sex over dance because I love dance) but as adults they have the right to do what they want (my kids). For me the age is crippling it for me.
subimage
Written Feb. 15, 2008 / Report /
nasty little youngstaz....
teenage kids are horny, what do you expect? :p
Michael
Written Feb. 15, 2008 / Report /
Tyme our society is growing more complex and competitive with each passing day. I wouldn't be surprised if our kids are doing this at age 10.
Ozone42
Written Feb. 15, 2008 / Report /
How is this complex or competitive?
RightOn
Written Feb. 15, 2008 / Report /
Michael...WTF!?
Complex and Competitive is a BUSINESS strategy, not an excuse for being a slut. I'm bowing out of this conversation... that single response just blows my mind.
I'm not a prude by any means... but my societal outlook has changed a LOT since I've become a father.
Tyme
Written Feb. 15, 2008 / Report /
Thought I would mention the paradox that, by the YouTube community, the videos are marked as adult content...but they were made by minors. So it's inappropriate for kids to watch it but it's appropriate for kids to do it?
@subimage - To have enough sense not to upload it to YouTube? :)
I found the videos last night following this J Smoove (I don't think it's the same guy). You can see the hard work he puts into the moves. You can see the difference in focus between the kids. These kids are more focused in pushing their body's physical limits and the other about bump and grind.
cooper
Written Feb. 15, 2008 / Report /
WTF I had to sign in to see it and I rarely sign in to you tube.
I have very liberal parents as architects and artists usually go and I think they might have freaked out a bit at this.
I could see the conversation now.
Parents:WTF WAS THAT?
ME:Artistic expression
Parents:Exactly how is that artistic expression?
ME:Expressin myself, life through art/dance ya know.
Parents:What exactly were you expressing? If you can explain to us the experiences you have had in life that would enable you to use those moves to express yourself feel free to do so, until then get your ass off that dance floor while we beat the fucking shit out of that perverted dance instructor.
fuscom
Written Feb. 16, 2008 / Report /
If I found some boy(s) dancing like that with my little girl, it be the last form of expression they ever do.
This isn't artistic expression, this is vulgar dry humping by horny teens set to music.
Hell, if I did that with my wife of 12 years and posted in on YouTube, I'd still get my ass kicked by her family, if for nothing more, disrespecting her in public.
I also find that offense to this is no way prudish. There's a difference in being a prude, and having some horny kid throw bullshit like this at you under the guise of 'art' or 'dance'.
Call this dance, Prelude to a Rape.
Josh
Written Feb. 16, 2008 / Report /
That's not dance, it's sex without penetration. I would label myself as liberal (perhaps extremely liberal), but I think those "dances" cross way too many boundaries. Even if they were adults, I'd call it tasteless crap; that they're not even adults makes it awful. Where are their parents?
As a parent, if I found my son doing that with friends, I'd feel pretty bad; wouldn't it reflect on me that I'd made a serious blunder in raising him? Perfection is impossible, but I hope that when my son gets older, I will have done a good enough job with him that he knows that that is NOT dancing, and it is NOT something he should be doing - not until he's an adult and has moved out of the house, at any rate.
Going to have to go with RightOn, Michael: WTF? What is that supposed to mean? Our society is growing more complex and competitive, and so we should expect 14 and 15 year olds to act like that on video, and then post it to the internet?
If that's the case, maybe the doomsayers are right. Maybe our society is headed for the garbage.
quietjune
Written Feb. 16, 2008 / Report /
I think I'd be unhappy about it and tell my child that I disapproved and why (that it was sexually suggestive, I was concerned that he or she was sexually active, if so did we need to talk about it [or did I need to lock him or her in his/her room depending on the age], etc.), and I would try to get him/her to stop, but wouldn't fight too much about it. (I would try to stop the humping on the floor because, as Josh said, that's just sex without penetration. The flipping and stuff they did while standing wasn't horrible.)
I remember from my teenage years that any time my mother tried to stop me from doing something, it just made me want to do it more. If she let me, I would usually grow out of it. I would kind of hope my kid would be as fickle as I was. The best thing my mom ever did was make me do things at my house, and I'm totally going to copy that strategy when I'm a parent. "Oh, sure, you can practice your dancing. But you have to practice at our house."
Of course I say all this, and I know that what I'd probably actually do is freak out, scream at the kid, and ground him/her for a year.
Vidar
Written Feb. 17, 2008 / Report /
Someone needs to tell these kids that you have to take off ALL your clothes in order to have sex, not just your shirt