Many months ago, I was jeered by some colleagues when complaining that it was a torture to play badminton 'in' the sun'. They told me that the correct one should have been 'under the sun'. I quickly showed them the literal meaning of the phrase 'in the sun' in my Oxford dictionary but they all refused to look at it, insisting that I was wrong.As a junior, I did not have the courage to argue with them.
I have encountered many other similar incidents in my hometown. In Chinese language, the phrase 'in the sun' is 'Zai Thai Yang Sia'(under the sun). It is difficult to convince them that it is 'in the sun' in English.
Have you any idea how to change the mindset of my friends towards the phrase 'in the sun'? What I mentioned that day has become a 'standing joke' among them.
9 Comments
peroty
Written Nov. 16, 2007 / Report /
Playing with shuttlecocks in the sun would cause shuttlecock melting and more importantly, instant death.
Tell him standing in the sun would kill him. If he doesn't want to die, stand under it. ;)
Rich
Written Nov. 16, 2007 / Report /
Are these people not speakers of English as a first language? I would never have expected someone who spoke English as a first language to take offence to "in the sun." The most obvious way to explain it would be to say the "sun" in this context is just a truncation of sunlight. Playing badminton in the sunlight is torture.
If you want to get technical on their asses, you could tell them that "sun" is an apocope. Which is the loss of one or more sounds from the end of a word, often present in informal speech — two common examples being photo (photograph) and sync (synchronisation).
That said, "under the sun" isn't incorrect either. You'd be right to persist that "in the sun" is acceptable, but wrong to claim "under the sun" is incorrect.
hthth
Written Nov. 16, 2007 / Report /
If the above doesn't work, you can also show them the Google results for each:
And
Murder by numbers.
Edit: Why didn't they look at the dictionary you showed them?
estarla
Written Nov. 16, 2007 / Report /
If they're still bothering you about it, I say print out this note and take it to them too. ;)
jensized
Written Nov. 16, 2007 / Report /
And it's thanks to misconceptions like these that Engrish.com continues to thrive. ;-)
Rich is correct (as usual).
Rich
Written Nov. 16, 2007 / Report /
QFT.
montoya
Written Nov. 16, 2007 / Report /
Gesundheit!
loism
Written Nov. 18, 2007 / Report /
My heartiest thank to all of you. I will show my friends all your enlightening explanations. Have an awesome day every one.
loism
Written Nov. 19, 2007 / Report /