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Is that the beta?

Check out mine on a 17" G5 iMac, Safari has been open for literally days if not weeks. Took just now.

Something is obviously wrong on your system. Do you have any extensions installed? Have you checked your disk? I have similar safari performance on my Macbook as well.

Have Apple care? Even if you don't it might be worth a trip into an apple store to see if you can get that sorted.

It's on and off. It IS the beta version but Safari has always been like this for me. Force-quitting it is a daily procedure.

Ah, I'm not going to comment directly on the browsers (although, I'd like to say exactly the same for a Mac/PC word processor, all of'em suck).

Here's a tip Ozone42: I noticed you got a lot of background in the screenshot. There's a nifty feature in OSX that allows you to do a screencapture for a single window.

Do apple+shift+4 to bring up the screencapture tool. When it's up, press spacebar. Now move your mouse between windows and you'll see that it selects the entire window, nothing else.

Edit: On Safari acting like that, it's not normal. It's way out of what's normal. But I'm uncertain what could be causing this behavior. Have you tried Googling for Safari memory hog?

hthth: It all seems to be fine, for now. Not sure what causes it. Next time I hit a speed bump I'll try and form a hypothesis.

I just tried out Firefox's latest nightly. Isn't FF3 supposed to be 100% Cocoa? Looks like they've got a LONG ways to go, as the only difference I noticed was that form elements are finally shaping up. The rest are features I don't want and will never use. But if they manage to put out a good browser that at least somewhat resembles the OS X environment, I'll be on that like a hobo on a ham sandwich.

That's about the same for me. Safari is fine until you start going to sites with heavy Javascript usage. Every once in a while, it gets caught up on a JS effect and just... stops working. Hence I don't use Safari. I love my Firefox: stability, better looking, and my extensions. The only downside is that it is slower than other browsers. But on my MBP, it's plenty fast *enough*.

hthth,

I'm aware. I captured less then the whole window. Background was just for context that you can see part of the post and verify it's "right now."

@alexsuraci (re: this note's title) someone already did.

p.s.: i've been using safari's beta since it came out, we have the same mac, and i have not had a problem with it.

I get that Safari-crashing slowdown at least once a day as well. Safari here is pulling 1.5 GB of virtual memory, and 5% of the CPU for now. This is the only window I have open, and only two tabs.

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Mac/PC word processor, all of'em suck

AbiWord FTW! Because, you know, it's free and all. Also, it works OK, although I wonder why the Windows version doesn't support ODT (Open DocumenT format).

No comment on browsers. Until I can surf the internet form the back of my eyelids I won't be happy.

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I dunno. I use firefox because that's what I used back in the windows days. Safari is fast, though, and it's the only browser I know of that passes the Acid2 test. I would use AppZapper to delete it and reinstall from scratch it I were you.

I forgot to mention that I was NOT using the beta safari, but the OS X Tiger version.

Could it be flash? Were you on a lot of flash-heavy sites when you experience this sort of behavior? I just had safari outright crash on a flash site... but I opened up camino and it did the same thing :(

It's the flash player from what I've concluded. It appears the flash player never release memory on Mac browsers (Firefox & Safari). If you leave open any flash webpage that continuously reloads an image (like a webcam image for example), it will run up your VM until your machine slows to a crawl. The same flash sites work just fine on Windows (and Linux from my limited tests). These are just my observations, so take it with a grain of salt. I ran the same flash page (which reloads a camera image every 5 seconds) on both my Windows PC and macbook pro. The VM on the PC never really changed over 10 hours, the macbook pro was up to 8GB VM. I'm not exactly sure why it works fine for one architecture and not the other. Maybe a bug in the player or the browser?? Or maybe developers aren't doing something right when managing memory in their apps which the Windows browsers detect and outside of the flash player and free up?

That's crap!

I knew the flash player for mac was less than optimal, but that's a really big flaw.

Safari 3 on Leopard is quite fast and have had no problems so far. I did experience your problems prior.

Cheers.

I've had a couple of quirks in safari since I upgraded but nothing too major. Just getting the occasional website not found error, i thought it may be my connection but it is now doing it at work too. Hopefully apple will iron these out in the next software update.

I tend to browse with Plugins turned off in Preferences. Hit a few ad-heavy sites, and all of the brain-dead Flash animations can easily run up the processor to 50% or more. This is especially noticeable when running a notebook on battery and your battery life suddenly seems to be cut in half.

It's pretty easy to run with Flash off, and only switch it on when needed (like watching a YouTube clip). Pages load much faster without all of the junk as well.

What needs to happen, IMHO, is that Safari needs to shut down all running animations when a window is deactivated.

Firefox runs like a charm on my Mac. I leave it open for days at a time, sometimes weeks, and it has never burped (knock on wood).

Generally speaking, I see the same with Firefox, Camino and Safari. Although, like already has been mentioned, leaving open tabs with animated .gif's and/or Flash seems to be quite problematic.

I've noticed my Safari issues have stopped in Leopard as well. Yay!