Decaflon Thread: Spat with Rogers leaves Canadian Apple stores without iPhones

Spat with Rogers leaves Canadian Apple stores without iPhones

Oli — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:28:30

That's a lot of assumption, and no fact.

Given that we're talking about a story slathered in words like "allegedly", "claims" and "rumors". There's very little fact around the story or its backing stories.

But no, I don't sit in on a lot of Apple-Rogers meetings these days -- it's hard to find the time -- but I'm really not venturing too far from common sense, am I?

There are only a couple of points there. I'll attempt to call bullshit on myself:

Renegotiations: almost guaranteed because Apple changed the pricing scales. There's no way in hell that Rogers wouldn't want to take advantage of cheaper hardware.
Apple knowing Rogers' rates: Slightly tougher but how on earth are Apple supposed to pick providers to handle their brand unless they've receive fairly detailed business planning?

I could be wrong - but I doubt I am. This "news" seems just a little too close to the rest of the internet's outrage on the subject to not be a PR back-covering exercise by Apple.

Spat with Rogers leaves Canadian Apple stores without iPhones

Ozone42 — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:49:08

That's a lot of assumption, and no fact.

Spat with Rogers leaves Canadian Apple stores without iPhones

Oli — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:30:49

On a purely economic level, talking basic supply-and-demand theory, by cutting the supply like they're rumoured to have done, Apple have increased demand. You might see it as a sanction but it could also be something to motivate the people who were thinking about putting a purchase off into queuing. Moving on..

I'm assuming that Apple and all their providers around the world went back to the negotiating table for the 3G iPhone.

If that's the case, Apple have known about Rogers' evil plans since day one. Under their deal, I bet you a ton of that cash goes in Apple's direction.

Now it's the eleventh hour and Apple have only just discovered how much Rogers are charging? Bullshit. Apple have just found out how pissed off the internet is. Who said petitions didn't work?

Spat with Rogers leaves Canadian Apple stores without iPhones

RightOn — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:20:00

yeah I could live with 75 text messages but 150 min... yeah that's like ONE phone call for me, not to mention I'd burn through 400MB in about 10 seconds. I'm ALWAYS surfing on my iPod Touch.

Spat with Rogers leaves Canadian Apple stores without iPhones

Tyme — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:18:34

I just read an article that said most people don't use text messaging but only 400MB of data when ours is unlimited? 150 minutes? That's not a lot of talk time. I wonder what 400 minutes costs. :(

Spat with Rogers leaves Canadian Apple stores without iPhones

RightOn — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:02:32

Well that's just retarded... but obviously Apple has some control by slashing the line from the Retailer.

Spat with Rogers leaves Canadian Apple stores without iPhones

Tyme — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:30:34

From the article:

As a result, Canadian Apple Retail stores won't be selling the new 3G touchscreen phones come Friday, representatives for the Cupertino-based company said during a private conference call on Monday evening. Instead, it will be up to Rogers and its partner Fido to lock subscribers into steep 3-year contracts that require a minimum monthly payment of $60 for just 150 minutes, 75 text messages, and 400MB of data.

That's wrong, just plain wrong. It's a shame that Apple doesn't have any control over the plans. Not saying they should have direct say in pricing but something like "must remain competitive" so there aren't runaway plans like this one. 3 years - that's laughable.